Have you heard any more about this. Are there any data sets from victorian government available online? What you are saying above makes perfect sense

Vishal

I appreciate your help. I tried the common sense way by searching google and can’t seem to find anything with any value to it and mainly I want the top rss I can find, but really one site so far.

Also, I don’t see an rss feed for this forum. Do you have a rss? If so I would like to subscribe! Your forum seems pretty cool so added ya’ to my favorites.

Thanks

I’m 24 years old and doing my masters at Princeton.

I’m the sort of guy who enjoys to taste different stuff. Right now I’m fabricating my own pv panels. I am doing it all alone without the help of my men. I’m utilizing the net as the only way to acheive this. I encountered a truly brilliant website which explains how to create photovoltaic panels and wind generators. The place explains all the steps required to building pv panels.

I’m not exactly sure about how accurate the data given there is. If some experts over here who have experience with these work can have a look and give your feedback in the thread it will be great and I’d really appreciate it.

Thanks for reading this. U people rock.

I believe the problem lies in the communication divide between the rural and scientific communities, which has unfortunately been ingrained in human society for too long. Many farmers have long associated anything to do with ecology or ‘green practices’ with the negative side of environmentalism, partly because of the negative coverage that ‘environmentalists’ often receive.

The world’s environmental issues (atmospheric pollution, synthetic chemical cycling in natural systems, food shortages, renewable energies etc.) have been burgeoning for decades. But they’ve only recently been saturated on our consciousness through media and government propaganda. If you look at it from a farmer’s perspective, they’ve seen droughts, water shortages and so-called ‘climate change’ for the last century or so…and then all of a sudden, city folk are all over them like a rash going on about emissions, carbon trading, water allocation markets and the like as if they’ve only just heard of it yesterday.

There are a lot of farmers around the world who are doing wonders for the environment (some of them without even realising it) and have been for years. I reckon a “Landcare for the 21st century” works both ways–it requires a lot more mutual respect between the farming and scientific communities, a lot more communication and knowledge trading, and a great deal less use of jargon and ‘catchphrases’.

(Public servant means the same as civil servant)

Regards

I am not certain what conventions Mike refers to, however I do know that we are struggling to evolve new world thinking whilst we are constrained to:

1. multi-nation negotiations such as Copenhagen;
2. innovation is constrained to national innovation systems;
3. cultural integration is constrained to multi-cultural patterns

I want to look beyond the obvious, to move thinking outside of the paradigms that constrain us to conventions and to find the intersections of thinking when we step outside.

Traditional science, if I can call it that, works within a set of paradigms and well-established assumptions that are understood by all in the profession. Whenever, anyone violates one of the well-established paradigms, referees quickly jump on you.

When working among disciplines, however, it is possible for researchers to unintentionally step out-side the paradigm without realising it. In economics, for example, the word “efficiency” is assumed to mean efficiency at the margin. In many other disciplines, efficiency measures average efficiency.

To me the greatest risk faced by those involved in transdisciplinary analysis is that they can violate a convention, paradigm or assumption without even realising they have done AND do it in a way that everyone relying on their work thinks that they have not violated it.

In short, trans-disciplinary research may faces higher risks and require the development of different review processes.

Asking two people, for example, to referee a transdisciplinary research paper may be insufficient. One might need to require that the research is reported differently. Anothr approach would be to require that papers are refereed by at least two people from each discpline. This latter approach, however, would discourage trans-disciplinary research.

The idea of failing cheaply and often is not to fail at the same thing over and over again, but rather is a plea to not spend too much time thinking through all the things that might go wrong, but instead to give it a go and see what happens. Hopefully in an informed and thoughtful way, much like breeders do by crossing the plants with the best traits, to carry on the analogy from before. In government, it is called “adaptive management”. Thomas Edison used this process to invent the light bulb. Mathematical modellers like Holger Maier integrate this concept into algorithms to solve real world problems faster.

We recently published a media-release arguing that a similar approach would be suitable for the Australian Geothermal industry. The media release is available at: http://www.activatedlogic.com/industry-focus-geothermal-publications.html

This makes it really difficult for them to engage in media like this.

One day they will be allowed greater freedom. THe challenge is to find a way that allows them to do it.

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Cheers

Kate is trying hard to walk the talk of open government and she needs our support as much as possible. She’s 100 per cent for real.

Would be interested in other people’s opinion on that effort. Tis certainly prominent in the world of online social media where I live.

There seems to be a growing and rich community of politicians and public servants whose thinking is at or moving in the direction I posited in the talk I gave. We’re working on running an initial event in Canberra to bring this thinking closer to the minds of the public sector and politicians. We have more than a little interest.

You can keep up with discussions at the Government 2.0 Australia Google Group – http://groups.google.com.au/group/gov20canberra?hl=en-GB